Wikipedia talk:Signatures/Archive 11

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... click the signature icon: or...

This needs to be updated to show the correct icon that currently appears above the edit window. - - - 02:50, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

What is "correct icon"? Non-signed users (and those who did not change specific user preferences) are shown, or something that likes them a lot. - Red rose64 (talk) 08:08, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

The icons I show are very different (I do not change ed any prefs related to the signature icon). - - - 02:48, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

• It's not a matter of changing anything related to signatures alone, it's a matter of using a different toolbar altogether. That said, might be added as this is a visible icon for those who use wikEd. - {{U | Technical 13}} ^{(e o t o)} 14:26, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

Maps Wikipedia talk:Signatures/Archive 11

Semi-protected edit request on November 3, 2014

I have read your writing and In Flanders Fields poetry. Besides the poetry there is a copy (I assume) of the original poem. If I read correctly, it should read "In Flanders Fields poppies" GROW "Please check this. 67.193.190.27 (talk) 14:48, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Unfinished: This is the discussion page for discussing improvements on the Wikipedia page: Signature. Please make your request on the talk page for the article in question. - Red rose64 (talk) 15:05, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

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Can we replace/delete the unsigned notices to correct the signature?

When we forget to sign it, it adds "Interpreting unsigned comments added by". Are we permitted to remove this and correct this signature, provided that we keep the original time stamp or something? If so, will SineBot automatically sign new edits as well? Zeniff (talk) 07:21, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, you can edit your own comments (though you should not change them after someone else responds), and people often just replace all "unsigned" messages with four tildes to create a proper signature. You do not have to worry about the original timestamp. Useful to familiarize each comment before posting, including checking the signature at the end. No, Sinebot will not sign again after a valid signature. Johnuniq (talk) 10:01, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Note that you can leave the date added by SineBot and just sign in with three tildes instead of four. This generates your normal signature but does not add a new date. This can help to avoid confusion about the order of who says what, when, if you happen to come back (re) to sign your post after someone else posted a reply. It can also make it easier for other editors to find the original comment diff in page history. TenOfAllTrades (talk) 15:31, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Extraordinary! A very helpful answer! Thank you very much! Ã, :) Zeniff (talk) 03:07, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

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"New section" in the signature

Not seeing anything in the guidelines about this so want to run it past the page. Are there any restrictions on the links to create a "new section" on the user's talk page directly from their signature? (For example, " czarÃ, ? ") czarÃ, ? 05:47, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Not a good idea. The purpose of a link to your user page or your user's talk page is to let people see it. For example, if someone is wondering if you have been told something, they should have a quick look before adding a new section. Also, many editors do not want to click on the links in their signatures and find that they are half way through actions . Also, it will be confusing for new users. Johnuniq (talk) 07:09, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

The idea is to place anything that is readable on page notifications. But the point taken czarÃ, ? 07:37, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Surely it should not be surprising, as in your example. If I click something like "leave a message", I do not mind ending in the edit window "new section". If I click "?", I expect a page about the crown, and certainly not an edit window. If you must have an "edit" link in your signature, you must also have a direct link to the page itself. - Kusma (tÃ, Â · c) 14:09, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

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I do not agree with needing a user page link

I have reverted the last edit. This is discussed here. Gryllida (talk) 23:37, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

• Return it on what basis? People should not be warned that failure to have links to their user pages that do not start with a colon will undermine the effects that require it to work? - {{U | Technical 13}} ^{(e o t o)} 00:25, December 7, 2014 (UTC)
  • Discussed there, I have filed my argument there. Gryllida (talk) 00:47, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

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Not to mention the Inuit population?

I have only a brief comment: The article on Baffin Island has what I consider to be a frivolous omission: the absence of any full reference, or discussion of, the indigenous Inuit population that has inhabited the island for centuries. Only a seemingly important European-centric standpoint. Surprising!

This is the talk page about Wikipedia's signature policy. Please leave your comments about improving Baffin Island in Talk: Baffin Island. Thank you! Ã, :) - Amaryllis The gardener ^speak 18:37, December 18 2014 (UTC)

Automatically mark post talk

(Renamed from "Allow super-opt-in to SineBot")

Allow users to strictly agree that SineBot automatically sign a talk post for us without contacting us for not signing the post. If it's something that always needs to be done on the talk page, why not automate it? It's easier to use.

I have posted a complement request on the author's bot page but they may need a consensus here that it's a good idea.

It's not clear (talk) 00:13, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I am against this. This additional editing is not necessary by bot binding resources (regardless of how many or few). It's not hard to type ~~~~ or click on the syringe link at the bottom to add it at the end of your post. FLOW will do this automatically, but there is no reason we should do this now. - {{U | Technical 13}} ^{(e o t o)} 00:30, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

Why was not it made on Wikipedia to be signed automatically? No, it's not hard to actually type in four tildes, but if I do not post in a while or I focus on my response, it's hard to remember. Call it disabled if you like. Not necessarily done by bots, but Wikipedia is a computer program and can be programmed to autosign, so why not? When I make forum posts to various bulletin boards, they all automatically add my name and date. I do not understand why this needs to be a manual process on Wikipedia. It's not clear (talk) 01:18, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

Changing the talk system to forum software is being proposed, see WP: Current. In the meantime, preview all edits, including comments, and check what's meant, including the signature. Johnuniq (talk) 04:32, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

Spend more time on more talk pages in more areas, especially very active ones. They are much more dynamic and non-linear/non-forum than you might imagine or have experienced so far, which creates a unique problem when it comes to treating them like a forum when they are used to be used as a general collaboration space. - slakr ^{\ conversÃ,/} 05:35, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

In related notes, most forums are not encyclopedias or wikis; their goal is to facilitate interpersonal discussions about personal opinions about the topic. It does not happen here; we try to facilitate the creation and maintenance of a product, not facilitating discussion of people's opinions on the topic. In that case, it may be more important that our talk page become more free (to facilitate content creation, reviews, and maintenance) rather than being limited in format (to facilitate discussion of opinions). - slakr ^{\ conversÃ,/} 05:49, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

This question arises from time to time, on this and other discussion pages, see for example Wikipedia talk: Signature/Archive 9 # Automatic signature. - Red rose64 (talk) 12:20, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

WP: SIGAPP bullet 2

There is discussion across parameters for parts? where Codename Lisa and I do not seem to agree. This is the position that WP: SIGAPP bullet 2 does not apply in cases where the user consciously enters a line break where common sense does not preclude or requires . It is my position that bullet 2 says it is not allowed; not in preferences, not in templates being replaced, and not if manually added. I believe that saying that it's okay to add them manually is an attempt to GAME the system, but I want to hear from the community what their views are about this. thanks. - {{U | Technical 13}} ^{(e o t o)} 15:53, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

WP: SIGAPP is concerned with how the last signature is given. One should not enter with the linebreak as it may interfere with surrounding text. Whether the linebreak is inserted automatically or manually makes no difference. - [[ User: Edokter ]] {{ talk }} 17:08, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I did not sign with line breaks. The broken link is outside the signature. Sincerely, Codename Lisa (talk) 05:36, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

• Edit this and this show what you did. - {{U | Technical 13}} ^{(e o t o)} 14:02, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

This is a diff that I tell you what exactly my sig is. and therefore the line break is not in it. Show policy that says use & lt; br/& gt; is completely not allowed in the same editing that contains ~~~~ or else I do not see no reason to appreciate this discussion with the answer.
Codename Lisa (talk) 00:21, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

• Please try harder not to worry about things that are not important. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Yellow text

"For guidance on how to use colors and other effects to customize the look of your signature, check out this tutorial."

The tutorial mentioned uses yellow text on a white background as an example. It's almost unreadable. Is this a good example (or any good suggestions or suggestions implied) for new users or others who happen to find this signature suggestion page?

The tutorial mentioned uses yellow text on a white background as an example. It's almost unreadable. Is this a good example (or any good suggestions or suggestions implied) for new users or others who happen to find this signature suggestion page? Iceblock (talk) 05:35, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Fixed [1] NE Ent 11:18, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Iceblock (talk) 22:32, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

How to add your custom signature to bot-sig

I propose the following additions:

If you see that a bot signed your post but you'd rather see your custom signature, this can be fixed. Bots will generate this code, or similar, "& lt; small & gt; & lt; span class =" autosigned "& gt; - Ã, preliminary comment [[Wikipedia: Signatures | unsigned]] added by [[User: Example ]] [[Special: Contribution/Example | contribs]]) 15:27, January 31, 2015? & Lt;/span & gt; & lt;/small & gt; & lt;! - Template: Unsigned - - & gt; ". Change to this: "~~~ 15:27, January 31, 2015?". Save the time stamp placed by the bot, but replace the rest with three tildes, which will add your special signature without a date.

I recommend putting this under the heading "Dealing with unsigned comments" under subheadings "put your custom signature after the bot sign your post". Oiyarbepsy (talk) 15:28, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

Question

Can I login with...
- [[User: 82.136.210.153 | 82.136.210.153]] ([[User talk: 82.136.210.153 | talks]]) ~~~~~
--82.136.210.153 (talk) 11:38, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
Instead of the usual...
- ~~~~ ? This IP editor changes the first internal link. (Point your mouse to the IP address to see the difference.)
--82.136.210.153 (talk) 11:38, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Hyphens (or Em Dash)

The signature and timestamp function (in edit mode) insert two hyphens in front of the tilde, and this is used to be the normal way of formatting a signature (by my memory). But I noticed that many signatures no longer include hyphens. My personal preference is to include hyphens because they help visually identify signatures (as opposed to comments). But it would be nice to have the preferred method described explicitly on this page.-- Tedd (talk) 16:28, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Two dashes are the remaining relics of email signatures (see Block Signature). The goal is to allow the software to recognize where the signature block (name, address, smart comment and other garbage) starts, so it can be formatted differently. There is no reason for hyphens or dashes before a signature on Wikipedia, and the default signature does not use it. Johnuniq (talk) 02:11, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

@Tedd: RfC on Wikipedia speaks: Signature/Archive 8 # Simplified signatures include several things, including which of the various horizontal line characters to be liked. - Red rose64 (talk) 13:47, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

@Johnuniq: The default four-tilde flag does not use it, this is true; but clicking the button or above the edit box inserts two hyphens characters before four tildes, like this: - Red rose64 (talk) 14:58, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I forgot about those buttons. I still think two hyphens stem from old email habits, but some nice editors like them and two lines are no problem. I just observed that two hyphens are not part of a standard four-tild signature, and they have a purpose to block email signatures that do not apply to the wiki. Johnuniq (talk) 23:37, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

I do not know why hyphens are not removed from the button. All the guides say to use four tilde. In fact, Wikipedia: Signature Ã,§ How to sign your writing is wrong when it says:

If you use the toolbar edit option (usually appears above the edit screen as the default), click the signature icon: or, to add four tildes.

I did not say anything about adding two hyphens too, which could confuse the wrong editor - ~~~~ for six tildes (or six dashes). - sroc Ã,? 06:07, April 8, 2015 (UTC)

I think the hyphen remains on the key because it is incorporated into the MediaWiki software, and thus shared with other languages ​​and Wiki (Commons, Meta, Wiktionary, etc.). Deleting two hyphens means making Wikipedia English inconsistent with others, or that removes them from all languages ​​and wikis, which may be controversial. - Red rose64 (talk) 16:13, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

@Redrose64: Ah, interesting. In any case, should not the above documentation be revised to record this privilege? - sroc Ã,? 07:04, April 9, 2015 (UTC)

I will revise the appropriate documentation. - sroc Ã,? 08:08, April 13, 2015 (UTC)

The explanation derived from this technology is not right for me. I suspect double hyphenation, which is a standard typological convention where em dash is not available, comes from the format used for citation association (such as, for example, in Chicago Manual of Style). The goal is to distinguish attribution visually from the rest of the text, for clarity. This same point is raised on the talk page User: Redrose64 linked to, above. That's also why I prefer the method.-- Tedd (talk) 03:26, April 13, 2015 (UTC)

I usually only include double dashes in front of the tildes when the last word in my post is connected, thus separating the links in my signature from the previous Wikilink. - Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:03, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

I always include two dashes before tildes. The only exception I can think of is when I post a line that says "Header added by" or the like. --ColinFine (talk) 16:03, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

The semi-protected edit request on April 29, 2015

I think someone should change the color value in the note under Appearance and color to actually be a color so you do not have to be a genius/have an external tool to know its color. This (will) only a small change. Randomdude999 (talk) 14:36, April 29, 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it is not clear what changes you want to make. Please specify specific changes in the format "change X to Y". - {{U | Technical 13}} (e o t o) 15:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Done I think this is what Randomdude999 got, and a sensible suggestion because examples are given for large text, for example. - sroc Ã,? 16:10, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Note: Ahh. Okay, okay. I've updated your changes to use {{Colorbox}} which gives slightly cleaner results (and really shows colors). - {{U | Technical 13}} (e o t o c) 16:23, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Ah, thank you! I was not aware of the template. - sroc Ã,? 05:27, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

Link articles in signature

The discussion in the Help section has found a lack of definitive guidance on including links to articles in signatures. As can be concluded from the discussion, I will support the explicit prohibition of such links. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:55, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

To be honest, the fact that it takes more than 10 years Wikipedia for the question to ask suggests that this is not a common enough issue to be valuable by framing a specific policy. In a way, a more general problem has been addressed (implicitly) by WP: SIGLINK and WP: SIG # DL, while still allowing for flexibility and interpretation of common sense. (Perhaps we should explicitly downplay da'wah and political campaigns as examples of inappropriate usage? I am afraid, though, that this will attract more POINTyness than leaving the problem itself.) The firm rules against article links in signatures also have the potential to disrupt "good" or "constructive" use of such links.

I think the more important point (which we should take from a special Help Desk discussion) is that the signature should avoid links and text that make the identity of the user hard to see or ambiguous; furthermore, it should be sure which link at the signature point to the user's and/or user's talk page. In the end, the two core objectives of a signature are to identify users who write something on a page, and to allow other Wikipedia editors to communicate with that user. TenOfAllTrades (talk) 14:14, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

• 3 It's about summarizing my thoughts on this issue too. - {{U | Technical 13}} (e o t o) 15:05, May 13, 2015 (UTC)
• I agree with Toat on all points. I went to Signatures (in response to the same Help desk request) not thinking about links at all, but hoping to find something about a misleading signature (to my attention). --ColinFine (talk) 15:59, May 13, 2015 (UTC)
• FYI, I remember one user formatting a date element in their signature as wikinks to the article type "on this day" for that date. It may be a problem to format the date correctly, but it provides an example of how wikilinks to articles can be inserted harmlessly in the signature. - sroc Ã,? 16:17, May 13, 2015 (UTC)
• Oooh! If we would start having an article link in the signature maybe I should change mine to something like this: I ONU nicorn ^{(Talk | Contribs)} !!!/sarcasm. ~ ONUnicorn ^{(Talk | Contribs)} troubleshooting 19:25, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

I used to have a link to a Random article in my signature [2] (before I changed my username). No one ever complains. - - optimist on run! (login as Pek the Penguin) 14: 35, May 19, 2015 (UTC)

Continuous Broken Signature

A few days ago, I changed my signature

 & lt; div style = "text-align: right" & gt; - SarahTehCat & lt;/div & gt; 

(Note: dash it is em-dash.) Until now, it works fine: all I have to do is type in 4 tilde and it will be inserted. It now does not work, and only shows what is normally displayed unless the HTML will not render, such as:

 & lt; div style = "text-align: right" & gt; - SarahTehCat & lt;/div & gt; (talk) 17:52, 3 June 2015 (UTC) 

I did go to WP: FIXSIG, but it did not really help... Still not working. I, I

And if I enter it manually, HTML works fine...

Can someone clean this for me? I do not know what's going on here... Ã,:/

Is it possible that you accidentally marked the "Treat above as wiki markup" box in your preferences, below the signature line? --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:08, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

@SarahTehCat: Do not use & lt; div & gt;... & lt;/div & gt; in the signature. The signature should be the inline content, whose div element is not. - Red rose64 (talk) 14:32, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Floquenbeam: Yes, this is strange. You see, what happened was that I had never checked it in the first place, and it worked so well until then. After I stopped working, I went to WP: FIXSIG and it said to check that option if I use HTML, so I checked it, but kept giving me error message

 Invalid raw signature; check HTML tags. 

. Just now, after reading your message, I say "what the hell" and go back to Preferences to try again. I marked the option and no longer displays an error message. Strange...? _?

Redrose64: I know that element is block-level -formatted, but it does not matter with my specific signature because I do not want to be aligned. I like my signature one line below my content and directed right to the right. So for my case, the & lt; div & gt;... & lt;/div & gt; works best because it does not matter where I put it; it will always be like that.

17:43, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

• @SarahTehCat: Your signature takes two whole lines. Even though you are not technically using a linebreak, I think your signature still violates WP: Appearance and color. Monty ₈₄₅ 17:54, 4 June 2015 (UTC )

Monty: I agree. I am sorry. I do not mean to take 2 lines, and I do not know why that is. Previously, it did not do that; it always does it on one line only, even though the line is below my content that I want.

What I really want is to be as usual, but straight and on track. But I just want one thick line. It does not violate WP/etc policy guidelines, as far as I know. I want it as below. It works every time I do it manually, like here:

I changed my signature to just - SarahTehCat and just typed below

 & lt; div style = text-align: right & gt; ~~~~ & lt;/div & gt; 

(I also unchecked "Treat the above as wiki markup" under Preferences.)

Do you know how I can customize my signature to be like this?

Yes I do; but I do not say how. Please remember that what you like is not necessarily what the community wants. What the community wants is that the author of each comment on the discussion page is easy to identify. If your signature is there, the relationship between it and your post is unclear. - Red rose64 (talk) 20:38, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

If that's really not clear, then I'm fine with saving it on the same line. But you do not have to be rude. I respect and understand the needs of the community and I am willing to do what I need to do to maintain that position.

Regarding your statement, I want to ask now: how exactly is the relationship between it and my post is not clear? Very often, quotes are signed with the en-dash-then-name flush-aligned right on the line under the quotation itself. - SarahTehCat (talk) 23:38, June 4, 2015 (UTC)




Religious messages in signature

Is it acceptable for signatures to contain religious messages? (For example, say "Praise the Lord" as an example). 217.44.208.185 (talk) 02:44, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

I would say yes, it's not that obscene or threatening. - Amaryllis Gardener ^talk 02:46, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Yes. NE Ent 03:25, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. This is a surprising and disappointing response. If this is indeed a Wikipedia policy then I am totally against it. 86.136.150.96 (talk) 12:22, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

We have a name for it.... Zeke , Mad Horrorist ^{(Speak fast)} _{(Follow me)} 19:20, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

So, can I have a signature that says "Hail Satan?" - ???????? ^YO ? 23:34, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

unicode/non-Latin characters in a signature when not in user name

There's a part of this guide that says, you're effectively welcome to have a non-Latin username, but "As a courtesy to other contributors, users with such usernames are encouraged to sign their posts (at least in part) with Latin characters. "It does make sense if the" final result "of the signature, according to the guidelines, should be" easily read by almost everyone "[on the English Wikipedia]. Doing so allows you to search for a name, easily refer names, etc.

Several times now I have found a Latin username with a non-Latin signature. In general I am fine with people who do what they want with signatures as long as they are consistent, but doing this makes it a complicated process to, say, find a person's comment on the page thread.

I apologize for this, I will read about what needs to be done. I'm sure you're a busy person and he does not know that I'm doing this, he's upset and goes to sleep. I will read there everything. And try the best not then I guess he will have to deal not have one fore business. It goes on to say that it advertises its business through wikis. And that's what he keeps doing. He's kind of short temperament so I apologize for anything I've made for you or other editors. Ian, I will rest the night and try the last one again. When I got to the computer. Do not stress about it. I will make sure that I am the only one who writes for now under DravenFrost.. No news to reply to this unless you feel it is necessary.

Shoot I forgot to sign the last thing I said about DravenFrost --Jw271988 (talk) 05:02, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

This might be related to User talk: Jw271988 # Responding to the message you left on your sandbox. - Red rose64 (talk) 07:14, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Mark WP: SIG # NT as policy?

I am returning this change , made with the argument that the guidelines should not 'ban' anything. I think it's over simplified, but it still guarantees discussion. In the meantime, I consider the reasons stated for not allowing transcriptions in signatures as proof of their own. - [[ User: Edokter ]] {{ talk }} 12 : 06, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

• Support increase WP: SIG # NT to policy. Quoting my comment 18:02, January 3, 2014 (UTC), as I understand it, one of the problems (because there are multiple) with the template in the signature is similar to the case of the image in the image: if the template is changed, every page where the template appears needs rebuilt. Of course there is a concern with the server load required to do that: some users (like me) post on some discussion pages every day, so that's a lot page to be added to the job queue. But the point is that the hypothetical new version of the template may be completely different from the old one, so all signed posts containing this template change their content (and possibly meaning), as opposed to the WP idea: TPO. See also Wikipedia talk: Signature/Archive 9 # Clarification requested on WP: SIG # NoTemplates. - Red rose64 (talk) 14:22, June 12, 2015 (UTC)
• Since people consider the use of templates in signatures to be annoying, editors who choose (though these guidelines) to put the template in their signatures will be subject to Wikipedia: The annoying editing policy. As such, I do not think lifting this special part (?) To the policy is required. - xeno ^talk 15:53, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

  The community might assume is annoying, but is it explicitly described as annoying wherever it is outside of the talk page? Otherwise, there are people who will say that SIG # NT is not a hard and fast rule, and can even call WP: IAR. - Red rose64 (talk) 16:08, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

• I support anything that can reduce the nonsense associated with these signatures and guidelines. I see edits but do not have the time to formulate the right responses, and I can see that people's freedom will be offended by the suggestion that something may be "forbidden". My feeling is that the guidelines should provide guidance, and tell people that sig templ only "very desperate" is ridiculous - an editor who insists on such a template would force the editor to waste time explaining the problem, when the simple fact is that anyone who insists on template after the explanation will eventually be induced. What xeno says is true, but the path means the clock will be useless when someone emphasizes on their template sig. I would be happy with a compromise that makes a language like "forbidden" ("not allowed" maybe less inflamed) if people do not want to make it a policy. Johnuniq (talk) 04:50, June 13, 2015 (UTC)
  • How is "not allowed"? Same meaning. - [[ User: Edokter ]] {{ talk }} 08 : 18, June 13, 2015 (UTC)
    • Or how "considered annoying", which ties it back to the policy. --Achch ( TALK PAGE ) 04:01, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

The few new policies are getting better. Saying it is considered annoying is true and making it fall under existing policies. I agree with Ahecht. Chillum 04:08, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

Drop shadow

I have not been watching this page for a long time, but due to the lack of appeal I get in the thread I started on (about what for me, the reading problem is much clearer), I suspect there will not be much support. Nonetheless, personally I would support any RfC who wants to make signatures more readable (I do not survive). - Rhododendrit ^talk \\ 20:26, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

Although I do not really like drop shadow (or anything with tags & lt; span & gt;), I'm pretty sure we should try to leave as many people's signatures as possible. More signature signatures will only make this place less fun (and that will stop the big gains from signatures that are really annoying: they tell you that their owners are not sensible people, so you can safely ignore anything which they say). - Kusma (tÃ, Â · c) 13:35, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

Unlike actually making people unreasonable go? --To? R 15:48, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

Did they ever? - Kusma (tÃ, Â · c) 15:54, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

Rarely. However, it might help. --To? R 16:14, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

I do not recommend "policing", I suggest we "add a warning". Otherwise, the new editor will continue to create inaccessible sigs. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy edits 20:59, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

My Signature

Ok, so I was told that I needed to change my signature, because of the plane image in it. After reviewing this page, it seems the biggest problem is when it's annoying. I think I do not bother because I put it together so that the height is the same as the text and will not interfere. It's also black for the same reason. Thoughts from others? - Airplane Maniac (talk) 15:50, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

My signature: --Airplane Maniac (talk)

@Airplane Maniac: No image is a signature is WP policy: SIGIMAGE - no exceptions are allowed. Please replace your property. - Neil N ^{talk to me} 15: 54, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

(conflict edit) @Airplane Maniac: No matter how big they are; the important thing is that there is no picture at all. WP: SIGIMAGE, which is policy, clear: any images should not be used in signatures. - Red rose64 (talk) 15:55, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Is there anything that can be done to replace it? - Airplane Maniac (talk) 16:01, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

@Airplane Maniac: Any suggestions on your talk page to use the unicode version. - Neil N ^{talk to me} 16: 04, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Can you explain that? - Airplane Maniac (talk) 16:19, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

NeilN means using characters instead of images. This is recommended on User talk: Airplane Maniac # Your signature where an example is given. - Red rose64 (talk) 16:23, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

No, can you explain how it works. I do not even understand what it is Unicode... - Airplane Maniac (talk) 16:52, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

All you have to do is copy/paste "?" be your signature in lieu of the image. --DoRD (talk) 17:01, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Is there a way to create my own Unicode image? - Airplane Maniac (talk) 17:09, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

No, unicode is an international character encoding standard. A table with all available characters is available here. --DoRD (talk) 17:18, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

I just found a helicopter (?) as well. There are several other plane symbols, but most are not displayed for me because I do not seem to have the correct fonts installed on my computer. --DoRD (talk) 17:28, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

All File instances: Airplane GA Black.svg and File: Aicraft black.svg icon in the user's signature has been deleted, per WP: SIGCLEAN. - Red rose64 (talk) 20:15, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Mary Eisenhower

Please do not re-enter the paragraph "private life". This is not accurate and imposes on his son. Thank you and thank you for your privacy. Ms. PS Mary Jean died September 19, 2014, the family tree is not accurate either. 174.58.159.176 (talk) 18:38, 2 October 2015 (UTC) mje174.58.159.176 (talk) 18:38, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

@ 174.58.159.176: You are in the wrong page entirely wrong - this page has nothing to do with the page you edited Mary Jean Eisenhower. View your user's talks page in User_talk: 174.58.159.176 to find the users you need to contact. thanks. ~ Nott Nott talk | contrib 18:42, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

So, uh...

What is the penalty for not signing a post on the talk page? I'm scared. Widgetdog (talk) 21:37, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

A simple reminder that you should do it.-- S Philbrick (Speak) 21:44, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

Family Signs and Style Fonts

How can I add {{SCRIPT | ARAB | ???????? | ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? And how to write it to use "Andalus" font? Thank you for the help. ????????/???????? (talk) 20:50, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're asking for. I see your signature appears correctly: User: Nemzag is funneled to display what looks like the name in Greek capital letters followed by a slash followed by a word or a name in Arabic. For fonts, you can try something like this:

& lt; span style = "font-family: {{# #: Andalus | Andalus | sans-serif}}; font size: {{# if: | {{{size}}} | 100%}}; color: {{# if: | {{{color}}} | black}}; background-color: {{# if: | {{}}}} transparent}}; {{# if: | title: {{{title}} } |}}; {{# if: | {{{css}}} |}} "& gt; {{# if: | {{{}}}} This is in Andalus font}} & lt;/span & gt;

which makes as

This is in Andalus font

This is a shortened version that you can use in your Signature:

& lt; span style = "font-family: Andalus" & gt; This is in Andalus font & lt;/span & gt;

which makes as

This is in Andalus font

Note: I gave this by using {{subst: font | text = This is the font of Andalus | font = Andalus}} and see what happens, then go back and revise this edit to include a shorter and usable version. This is necessary because you can not use the template directly in your signature. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs) 18:37, October 24, 2015 (UTC), Updated: davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs ) 18:44, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Hi, k-t? Ang? ?????? vor? ÃÆ'ªlph ???, I managed with the help of Anupmehra - Let's talk!/span> , he gave me this code:

"[[Pengguna: Nemzag | & lt; font size =" 3 "& gt; & lt; span style =" font-family: Andalus Teks MT; warna: hitam "& gt; ReplaceItWithYourDesiredName & lt;/span & gt; & lt;/font & gt; ]] ([[Pembicaraan pengguna: Nemzag | & lt; font size = "3" & gt; & lt; span style = "font-family: Andalus Teks MT; warna: hitam" & gt; talk & lt;/span & gt; & lt;/font & gt; ]]) "

But I want to create a signatune with two sizes for the normal size Greek & amp; Andalus and for 5px Arabian part. The problem is that "preference does not allow many characters, how should I do? How to optimize command? RÃÆ'ªmci, pÃÆ'ªaqÃÆ'«...

???????????? (dÃÆ'Â'r.) ???????????? (att.) ?????????? ????????/ ???????? ?????????? ???????? (talk) 12:13, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

MPEG-4 video in signature?

Is there a way I can use video for my signature, preferably in MPEG-4 format? - Ã, Unsigned preliminary comments added by 86.152.26.98 (talk) 19:41, 2 July 2015

No. First, only signed-in users can have a custom signature; second, the use of any image (move or not) is prohibited, per WP: SIGIMAGE. - Red rose64 (talk) 20:17, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

To anyone who reads this: Using symbols in existing fonts is generally allowed (see this editing by King of Hearts for example), but the reason "Images in signatures give undue advantage to certain user contributions" may apply in certain situations (for example if the King of Hearts specializes in uploading a picture of playing cards, other editors can argue that this rule is applied but will not be slam-dunk). Wikipedia Time: Signatures and other Wikipedia guidelines and policies apply - using symbolic characters in a way that is likely to be annoying or misleading should be avoided and may be challenged. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs) 18:55, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

I do not think that "inappropriate for certain user contributions" has to do with what images you have uploaded/jobs you have done on other pages. I think the problem is using icons to draw attention to the contributions attached to your signature. The problem is a signature that uses an icon (or color, or whatever) to say? ? ? PAYING EXTRA TO MY COMMENT? ? ? ? WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:56, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

@WhatamIdoing: "the images in the signature give inappropriate position for certain user contributions" is just one of the eight reasons listed on WP: SIGIMAGE and some of them - mainly two the first - is a far more important reason for not using images in pictures. Only a few of these reasons will apply to the characters found in the font. - Red rose64 (talk) 14:33, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes Imammuddini (talk) 20:52, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

External links to an unobtrusive project

It seems all external links are annulled. Is this a matter of umbrella guidance, or is it okay to add links to projects that should not distract from Wikipedia? Say I want to add a link to Wikia-is it against the rules, or can I do that? Thank you! Just An Ing ^{( Speak )} _{USER} 21:36, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, signature for the benefit of this community to help develop the encyclopedia. No external links. Johnuniq (talk) 00:21, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

If you forgot to sign it, what should you do?

I almost always sign any comments I bring to the talk page - and in fact, I think my Wikipedia edits contain more comments on the talk page that make what is meant to be a useful suggestion than the actual editing to the page. The only time I did not sign this comment was a couple of occasions when I forgot.

I am just wondering what to do if someone finds out that someone forgot to sign a comment on the talk page. Do you just go back and edit it, even if it's editing just to add 4 tilde? Do you still do this if you find weeks of negligence or months later?

I think I did it on one or two occasions; but I really do not know what is the official way of dealing with this. I just found an old comment that I forgot to sign, but I noticed that some robots do it for me later, and somehow know my username. But he did it in a slightly different way.

The article which is the page of this talk does not seem to cover this, so I would really appreciate knowing. thanks.

- EDIT SECONDS LATER: OOops, like I do now! Sorry - Freudian slip, maybe. M.J.E. (talk) 14:09, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

If you do not see it until some time later (and the bot does not do the job for you) it will be confusing to add 4 tildes later, because it will mislead time stamps. Better to add the right time, and I find that the easiest way to do it is with Template: Xsign. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:12, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

@MJE: If I realized at that time (or soon thereafter), and no one else posted to it, I just signed up with four tildes and edit summary like this , a few minutes of "inaccuracy" at the time was of little consequence. If some time later, I sign with three tilde, and in the same editing I will manually add a timestamp, which becomes the date and time of the original submission. Often, you may find that in such cases, SineBot (talkÃ, Ã, Â · contribs) has dropped in and signed on your behalf. But do not rely on it. - Red rose64 (talk) 09:23, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

You can also create similar solutions as in Finnish Wikipedia: fi: Toiminnot: VÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'¤rinkÃÆ'¤yttÃÆ'¶suodatin/78, an edit filter that warns users if they forget to sign their comments. --Stryn (talk) 09:07, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for this comment. I really do not really understand it, but I will look into this further advice if I need to; I think there's a help page that explains all the details in detail that little search will look for. M.J.E. (talk) 11:29, May 7, 2016 (UTC)

Using signatures with Visual Editor

This page should explain how to use a signature with the Visual Editor Wikipedia. Currently, typing ~~~~ generates a message saying that Wikitext is not supported and you have to switch to the source editor. It looks like there's a way to insert a signature in the Visual Editor via "Insert" - & gt; "Your Signature", but it seems sometimes gray and I do not know why. -Thunderforge (talk) 18:04, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

It's annoying to remember!

What if, at least at times when I clicked on the "new section", it automatically includes four tidles on the second line, because after the edit frame is ready, I forget all about it. Another way to prevent users from forgetting is when the user clicks on the preview, it adds this string: "Applying unsigned comments added by..." (no name, or date) to remind the user to add ~~~~. Charlieb000 (talk) 03:30, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

Halo Charlieb000, see Wikipedia: Pump village (others) #Release Au

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